Mark 2 Wholesale gas prices have halved recently, when will Bulb customers see gas prices reflect this?

My Bulb says Toshiba but further down meter type is Landis Gyr+ 5424 which is Smets2 installed last June. Would expect it to work smart fairly universally.


Switch update: I’ve now left Bulb.
This forum account still works.
IHD is now displaying a zero rate for electricity, still on the old Bulb rate for gas.
Octopus say they have detected the smart meter and will be able to use it but it will take up to 4 weeks for the to take readings from it.
Final meter readings were manual. Smart meters are not yet used for that.



IHD has started updating itself.

Edit: the update was successful and the IHD is already displaying the correct prices for the new provider’s tariff.

Some aspects of this smart meter system do seem to actually work!


SMETS2 switch update.
Two days in and I’m downloading half-hourly usage data at the command line…


I’m well jel :star_struck:

Come on @William_at_Bulb, get on it! :upside_down_face:


And a nicely formatted usage graph (with half-hourly kwh usage increments to 3 decimal places) on their website. All fully working within 2 days of switching.

Two lessons here:

  1. SMETS2 works (when it works!)

  2. The quality of the IT back end behind the smart meter makes soooo much difference…


Oh dear! That would drive me insane…in a good way. I don’t have a smart and have switched from Bulb recently but I do my own graphs, forecasts and usage with a normal meter.
I don’t think my other half would take much more detail of my energy usage/analysis. :grinning:


A wise tree bows it’s head before a storm :palm_tree:

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You know what, I’m so tempted just to bite the bullet and switch, accepting the hassle of another new meter. I can’t see Bulb catching up any time soon. They just don’t seem interested in any of the exciting stuff Octopus are doing.


DM me if you’d like a referral! :rofl:

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O.K. I have not got a smart meter who do I swap to (GAS) if I will not have a smart meter?

Swap to any supplier you like? Don’t really understand the question.

You can only swap to suppliers that will only take Gas on. You can have a smart meter or not, doesn’t matter. Pm me if you need more help.

GO is good tbf. I couldn’t have agile to having an electric oven and cooking during peak times…

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Yeah, I have an electric oven. It’s about the only thing that’s tricky to time shift and makes up most of my peak usage on the Bulb smart tariff. I do try to not use it until 7pm when I can, often not home until then anyway. The Agile peak rate is considerably lower than the Bulb peak rate, and better off peak periods too. I’d probably give Agile a go if I did switch.


ManyThanks Guess I now qualify as a senior dummy!

Not sure if they do separate gas/electric but I recently moved to Green. (dot) One condition was I didn’t need to take a smart meter.

I’ve switched to Octopus Dan, Feb 14th start date. Thanks for your help on the Smart meter - look forward to it up and running like yours :slight_smile:

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I’ve switched to Octopus Dan. Thanks for your advice on the smart meter. Should be up and running in a couple of weeks.

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We’ve got our SMETS2 install scheduled for the 6th February. I’m happy to provide updates about how it all goes, hopefully the process will be straightforward and the engineer will arrive on time. This may help you decide if you want to make the switch.

Obviously, different engineers and different location, so our experience could be different to others, but it may be useful.

Also, make sure you get a quote for the Go or Agile Tariff, then when you sign up Octopus and their system becomes aware you want to be on one of their Smart Tariffs and they seem to prioritize SMETS2 installs for such users. Though why anyone would move to Octopus and not be on one of the smart tariffs is beyond me.

@Dan42 switch seems to have gone very well indeed. And it’s good to see a SMETS2 device work as intended during a switch.

The nerd in me is loving those graphs and can’t wait to have access to the Octopus API.

@Dan42 I’m not sure if you’ve got solar, so you might not be able to answer. Do the Octopus graphs show any export for say 30min periods where your usage was negative. Or do the graphs just say 0kWh for those periods?